WTB PAL Commodore systems, HardSID card

Serious · Post by **Serious** » Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:05 am

I'm in the U.S. and would like to acquire PAL versions of Commodore systems, primarily the C64 and C16.

I'm also interested in a HardSID card (ISA or PCI).

Willing to buy or trade.

orion70 · Post by **orion70** » Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:48 am

Moved to "Other Systems".

charliehopke · Post by **charliehopke** » Tue Nov 05, 2013 11:50 pm

Serious,

I'm just curious, if you are in the U.S. why would you want PAL System Computers?

Charlie

Bacon · Post by **Bacon** » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:38 am

I have a HardSID ISA card for sale. You'd have to supply your own SID chip though since I don't have a spare one. I'm in Sweden but the HardSID is a small item so it shouldn't cost too much to send it to the USA.

Make me an offer. I prefer cash since I'm buying a new synth and some other stuff.

I'm afraid I don't have a spare C64 or C16 to sell.

Edit: Here's a picture of the HardSID. The SID chip in the picture is broken but you can have it if you want it (provided I can find it) The nosy cat is not included

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metalfoot76 · Post by **metalfoot76** » Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:13 pm

charliehopke wrote:Serious,

I'm just curious, if you are in the U.S. why would you want PAL System Computers?

Charlie

PAL computers can run a lot of software which the NTSC ones can't because of some timing and optimization tricks that work with the PAL screens due to difference in # of screen lines between refresh.

Serious · Post by **Serious** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:02 am

charliehopke wrote:Serious,

I'm just curious, if you are in the U.S. why would you want PAL System Computers?

Charlie

Many demos and games were created for PAL computers and don't run properly on NTSC machines. They are jittery, run at the wrong speed, or appear garbled.

I have the equipment to convert a PAL signal for display on an NTSC television, which I currently use to play PAL Atari 2600 games.

charliehopke · Post by **charliehopke** » Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:01 pm

Serious wrote:
charliehopke wrote:Serious,

I'm just curious, if you are in the U.S. why would you want PAL System Computers?

Charlie
Many demos and games were created for PAL computers and don't run properly on NTSC machines. They are jittery, run at the wrong speed, or appear garbled.

I have the equipment to convert a PAL signal for display on an NTSC television, which I currently use to play PAL Atari 2600 games.

OK, I understand now. I've been dealing with Commodores for a lot of years, but just never came across any PAL Systems in any of the computers that I purchased along the way

By the way, if you look at the first four words of my original post, it is a fine example of just how great a Literary Giant in the field of Poetry I am.

Charlie