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Custom Character calculator program
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:10 pm
by ral-clan
Hi, on the main page of DENIAL there is shown sometimes a program that looks like a designer's aid for making custom characters. It has a grid for plotting pixels and then calculates the values for the data statements.
Is there anywhere I can get a program like this that will run on an NTSC VIC-20?
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:26 pm
by Schlowski
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:44 pm
by ral-clan
Oh yeah, that's the one on the main DENIAL page. But I see the programmer is from Germany, which probably means PAL and not useable on a real NTSC VIC-20....
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:04 pm
by Boray
It's only programs that changes screen position in a stupid way, rely on the raster beam or on exact sound frequencies that are incompatible between PAL/NTSC.
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:06 pm
by Boray
...or that makes use of the NTSC interlace mode...
Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:06 pm
by Boray
...or exact calculation speed
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 12:54 am
by Jeff-20
I am just so glad that people are looking at the front page. In celebration, I'm going to add more pics.
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 7:45 am
by ral-clan
Boray wrote:...or exact calculation speed
Yeah, but don't PAL VIC-20s have more horizontal character rows than NTSC VICs?
That's why I thought this program would be incompatible: some of the lines of the screen would be off the bottom of my NTSC monitor.
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:07 am
by Bacon
ral-clan wrote:Yeah, but don't PAL VIC-20s have more horizontal character rows than NTSC VICs?
That's why I thought this program would be incompatible: some of the lines of the screen would be off the bottom of my NTSC monitor.
No, only more raster lines, which makes no difference in this case.
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 9:55 am
by Schlowski
Definately from Germany and PAL, it's from me
But since I do not change anything regarding screen resolution or position it should be no problem at all on NTSC - just tested it on VICE in NTSC and worked very well (as I expected).
So, I'm off for a week so I won't answer any questions but since Greyghost has used LCE a lot I think it is now as flawless as I am able to program
Björg
Re: Custom Character calculator program
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:41 pm
by Schema
ral-clan wrote:Hi, on the main page of DENIAL there is shown sometimes a program that looks like a designer's aid for making custom characters. It has a grid for plotting pixels and then calculates the values for the data statements.
Is there anywhere I can get a program like this that will run on an NTSC VIC-20?
http://sleepingelephant.com/ipw-web/bul ... .php?t=892
Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:10 pm
by GreyGhost
yep, probably the best one i've used so far.