V-FORTH - Forth-83 for the VIC

[armypavarmy]

Where can I find version 4.9.
I only have 4.7.
Thanks for your patience and help.
Greetings Armando

[srowe]

Where can I find version 4.9.
I only have 4.7.

I've updated the files on my web site

https://eden.mose.org.uk/download/

[armypavarmy]

I finished and saved the snake program with Autosave
taken from the Forth c64 version.
I can't find a program to write Seq files.
With what program did you write the Demo.fs files. ??
I only have programs for Vic20 and c64 that read and print Seq files but don't write them.
Attached is the Snake. file
Load "snake.prg",8,1 : Sys8192
Thanks for help. Armando

snake.zip

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[srowe]

I finished and saved the snake program with Autosave

Very colourful.

I can't find a program to write Seq files.
With what program did you write the Demo.fs files. ??
I only have programs for Vic20 and c64 that read and print Seq files but don't write them.

I don't edit files actually on the VIC, I prefer use an editor on my desktop PC and copy them into a disk image. I use my own tools (cbmshell) but you can also do this with the c1541 program which comes with VICE.

There are probably text editors on the VIC you could use, I don't know of any myself.

[armypavarmy]

HI,
I insert two listings that I made.
One normal and the other for Minigrafik.
I would like to have them in Vforth if possible.
They both work but the execution speed is very slow, especially for the version with minigrafik.
I am sure that with the Vforth they will be faster.
Thank you . Greetings Armando

Vic20- Wolfram-Automata.zip

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[Mike]

They both work but the execution speed is very slow, especially for the version with minigrafik.

This is an unfair and misleading comparison! The version in pure BASIC only works on the text screen, whereas the MG version sets pixels in the graphics screen and correspondingly has to operate on 64 hires pixels instead of 1 single character cell for a given screen estate.

Here is how I would implement those Automatons with MINIGRAFIK. The first line are random pixels, subsequent lines have Rule 110 applied (can be changed with the values in line 9):

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1 X=RND(-TI):CLR
2 FORL=0TO1:FORM=0TO1:FORR=0TO1:READC(1-L,1-M,1-R):NEXT:NEXT:NEXT
3 @ON:@CLR:FORX=0TO159:@RND({PI})+.5,X,.:NEXT
4 FORY=0TO190:@C(@(159,Y),@(0,Y),@(1,Y)),0,Y+1
5 FORX=1TO158:@C(@(X-1,Y),@(X,Y),@(X+1,Y)),X,Y+1:NEXT
6 @C(@(158,Y),@(159,Y),@(0,Y)),159,Y+1:NEXT
7 GETA$:IFA$=""THEN7
8 @RETURN:END
9 DATA0,1,1,0,1,1,1,0

The program above needs roughly 10 1/2 minutes to fill the screen. It avoids the slow 2^A operation followed by AND N to mask out the relevant rule bit, and instead does a direct lookup in the array C(L,M,R) filled in line 2 from the data in line 9 (the 8 digits represent the rule number in binary, %01101110 = 110 decimal). Lines 4 and 6 also handle the wrap-around at the left and right edge.

Forth could do all relevant calculations with byte and word values. That surely is faster than the (implied) float arithmetic of BASIC. Nothing to prove here.

[srowe]

My graphics vocabularies don't currently have a word to test if a pixel is set, I'll add one and then post a FORTH implementation.

I've been recently trying to implement an efficient Game of Life, but even with optimizations it's very slow.

[armypavarmy]

Thank you.
if you can, the low resolution version (Basic) converted to Vforth is also fine.
I would like.
Greetings Armando

[srowe]

Here's the equivalent of the BASIC (text mode) version in FORTH

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variable n

: wolfram-text
    150  n  !
    147  emit
    37888  dup  512  0  fill
    0  4106  c!
    begin
	4586  4097  do
	    i  1-  c@  2*
	    i  c@  +  2*
	    i  1+  c@  +
	    5  rshift
	    1  swap  lshift
	    n  @  and  if
		32
	    else
		0
	    then
	    i  22  +  c!
	loop
	1  n  +!
    again  ;

[armypavarmy]

HI,
thanks for help. I try to do it.
Greetings Armando

[armypavarmy]

HI,
Here is the Automata .Prg file.
Version with Vforth.
Very beautiful and fast.
Load with Load "automata* ",8,1 : then Sys 8192.
Thanks to the author (Srowe) for the cooperation.

automata-vforth-.zip

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[srowe]

I'd nearly forgotten about this. I've added a new example to the latest release which contains 3 versions: text, low resolution and high resolution graphics.

[armypavarmy]

Vic20 and "VForth 5.0" latest version.
Thanks to Simon Rowe who made
the version of the program "Pattern "
from basic to "Forth"
Fluid and fast execution.
Program available.
Real time demo video clip.
Enjoy the Vision

Vic20-VForthV5-Pattern.zip

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[funkheld]

hello, good day.
I haven't been in touch for a long time.

at 76 years old I wanted to start this vforth for the VC 20 again.

where can I download version 5.0 of vforth for the vc20 and the help for it?

greeting
thanks.

[srowe]

Latest version is always available for download here

https://eden.mose.org.uk/download/vforth.zip

There are some files in the docs/ directory to explain implementation that is specific to V-FORTH.

Source code can be found here

https://eden.mose.org.uk/gitweb/?p=vforth.git;a=summary