How many of you still have your origional perchased new VIC?

Nathan · Post by **Nathan** » Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:56 am

Take a pic and post it here? We need a Denial forum app for iOS because I am on an iPad most of the time

Post by **Jeff-20** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 2:34 am

The forum needs to be updated period. It's running on 2005 software! I can't seem to get any help with that, and I'm too afraid of losing everything if I do something wrong.

highinfidelity · Post by **highinfidelity** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:30 am

Jeff, you can hire someone to do the task on vworker (formerly "rent a coder"):

http://www.vworker.com/

I use it sometimes, when there's some informatics task out of my knowledge. It's OK. There's people there who does forum upgrades every day; some of them are phpBB developers.

Post by **Jeff-20** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:59 am

Great idea! Thanks for the info! I have no idea how much to pay. I did some googling. Some charge around $300 just for basic maintenance (not an upgrade), and that's expensive to me. I would love to do a full upgrade and maybe add mobile support. It's sad that a forum full of programmers would need to outsource this!

Post by **joshuadenmark** » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:10 pm

Hi

Not hard to do, remember backup first.

https://www.phpbb.com/community/docs/IN ... ml#convert

highinfidelity · Post by **highinfidelity** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:21 am

Jeff-20 wrote:It's sad that a forum full of programmers would need to outsource this!

Same thought I have all the times I go there, but after all you can't know EVERYTHING about informatics. A forum involves html, php or asp, mySQL or other database knowledge, stylesheets and all that stuff. Too many things at the same time, at least for me.

About the price: just put it in the price range you have in mind to pay willingly, the coders will make the final price. Generally speaking you will receive very low bids by coders from the far east (the currency change and the life cost is extremely favourable on our side) and ten times higher bids from US or EU. Pick up the one that you think has the more reliable experience/price ratio.

I usually end up with far-east coders as I simply can't afford Us or EU professionals. In average they're very very good, although they tend to put too pressure to end the work and being paid, while I prefer to test what I received at my ease. However, I also understand that life in their country is not so easy, so they try to skip from one work to another as fast as they can to put together some wages. Most of the times their bids are so much lower than what I thought I would pay, that I give them some extra if they did a good job.

Post by **Jeff-20** » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:12 pm

Good advice. I'm not sure what I'll do. It really pains me to write it, but interest in Denial has waned enough that it may not be worth the money to update or keep a forum. It's been a good run, so I'll at least price the options.

Kweepa · Post by **Kweepa** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:18 pm

Do you mean your interest?
I can't contribute time, but I can contribute some money.

It has been pretty quiet, but I thought it might be a summer lull.

Post by **Jeff-20** » Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:43 pm

I guess that did sound rather ominous.

Please know that my interest is eternal!

I just felt like many of the casual-interest members had come, had fun with us, and moved on to other trends. Which is ok, because having a friendly community is important to me.

I'm not soliciting donations (though I am more than thankful to know of your willingness to support). I feel less urgency when there are 25 hard-core members than I would when there are 200+ daily traffic. So, I'm not really prepared to pay 500 or whatever to have someone upgrade the software.

That doesn't mean I would close shop. Even if Denial wanes to a "wiki only" site, I'll try my best to make sure it's always around.

highinfidelity · Post by **highinfidelity** » Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:09 am

Jeff, it will be MUCH cheaper than that. For an upgrade only, I think you should't be asked more than 50-100 $. I have been asked around 100$ for a porting from Snitz2000 to phpBB AND Access to mySQL conversion, which is a much more complex operation.

Generally speaking, I'm a recent user so I can't judge the activity here at its peak, but I don't think this forum is static now. There are many interesting threads every day, more than I could truly dig and understand. I have seen in the past the interest for other forums wane, but I really don't think that this is another case.

ral-clan · Post by **ral-clan** » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:23 pm

I still have my original VIC-20.

Barney · Post by **Barney** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:41 am

I had my original 1982 Vic-20 up till about 3 years ago. I powered the puppy on and the screen was cluttered with garbled characters. I swapped every chip on the board with working replacements but it didn't correct the problem. I contacted a guy who repairs Vic-20 motherboards and he quoted me the repair cost: $40 repair and costs of shipping back and forth....easily up to $75, so I said forget it.

I retaliated and and bought 4 Vic-20 on ebay just in case this ever happens to me again.

Mayhem · Post by **Mayhem** » Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:18 am

Technically the one I have is the original... I got it from my brother's girlfriend in 2003. Her family bought it new back in 1984 I believe, so it was purchased "at the time".

Nathan · Post by **Nathan** » Mon Oct 01, 2012 2:21 pm

My original VIC i got 3 months ago, and for free you cant complain!

callan · Post by **callan** » Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:25 am

I fear the first VIC I ever used (1982) was not mine, but my cousin's.
However, 20 years ago a friend of mine gave me his old Vic, which I kept stored - and about 9 months ago, I cracked it out. It's an immaculate-condition, flat key (PET style) Made in Japan unit. After a service, the keyboard fully worked, and it has just a slight patina to the case (not enough to consider retrobriting). The RF modulator has died, but works perfectly on composite.

The thing I like about it the most? - how there is an audible "ring" from the springs in the keyboard when typing on it, and the firm "clack" as the keys spring back to the stops.

Callan