International Karate VIC20 [Ultimem] [CANCELLED]

[Victragic]

I’d like to think that more efficient, newer programming techniques would get it down to somewhere near 35k.

Yeah, I agree you could fit something under 40k, with help of some look up tables for mirroring and calculating the X position of the sprites. You might also be able to compress background graphics to save space. But this still won't be as fast as pre-rendering all the graphics.

[beamrider]

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[Mike]

What about the possibility of releasing it on cartridge?

How about Ultimem with IK as firmware?

... SCNR

[beamrider]

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[Ivanhoe76]

If there was a version that ran on a 35K Vic but then ran faster and/or with more animation frames with Ultimem or perhaps FE3 as well, that would vastly increase the target audience. I wouldn't buy an Ultimem just to play one game, however good the game was as I'm perfectly happy with my mega-cart.

What about the possibility of releasing it on cartridge?

I absolutely agree with what you wrote! I surely won't buy ultimem just to play an (even excellent) game!! I will probably buy it if it was released on cartridge, instead!

[pixel]

I prefer having an Ultimem plugged in instead of having a stack of cartridges laying around. And you'll buy an Ultimem anyhow. Resistance is futile. Slapping the game onto a FE3 sounds pretty doable.

However, if you're going full blast with unrolling perhaps there's a way to bring on digi sounds. Have some real-time exomizer decompression routines left for playing samples for example that probably won't go into Arukanoido. I'm there for code review if you like.

The background already looks better than what one'd expect from the VIC:..

[eslapion]

Yes, perhaps if Ultimem was a bit more consumer friendly i.e. came with a case and mega-cart like ease of use and also included a killer-game like this it would be a more tempting proposition for the masses.

In the very first post of this thread, it is mentioned the game will require the 1024kB RAM version of the Ultimem. Even the VIC MIDI with 128kB doesn't have enough. The Mega-Cart has 35kBytes of RAM!!

If there was a version that ran on a 35K Vic but then ran faster and/or with more animation frames with Ultimem or perhaps FE3 as well, that would vastly increase the target audience. I wouldn't buy an Ultimem just to play one game, however good the game was as I'm perfectly happy with my mega-cart.

What about the possibility of releasing it on cartridge?

AFAIK, the FE3 offers the same amount of RAM as the MC because it's the VIC-20's normal directly accessible limit. Ultimem uses paged banks and therefore has a much higher limit.

Having made the Behr-Bonz which carries 2 MBytes of ROM, I know for a fact a cart of IK20 can be made. However, IMHO, it's unthinkable to make a 35k version of a game intended to use 30 times more.

[beamrider]

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[orion70]

Sort of excess of RAM for games feasible with a fraction of it.. the VIC is following the same well-known trend of its Windows based descendants

Just joking eh

[majikeyric]

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[Noizer]

[Paolopepper]

Such a shame but hope first and foremost, you’re ok.

[eslapion]

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[polluks]

Such a shame but hope first and foremost, you’re ok.

Yeah!

[orion70]

Hey guy, what's going on? We all really hope it's not due to personal reasons!