How many games could I fit on a 120 minute tape?

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MRaider wrote: The largest tapes I used were C90s, and I never once, ever, had a load error off a tape.
Me neither.
I think the bad reputation of tape as a storage media for c64/vic20 is greatly exaggerated. The only time I had trouble loading from tape was with games copied with bad quality double deck cassette players.
I had lots of games saved to tape with Turbo Tape or GRL loader and those used very short pulses indeed.
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I agree. I always found tape to be a reliable storage format. The data is stored at fairly low density compared to a floppy drive, so less to go wrong.
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bokvamme wrote:
MRaider wrote: The largest tapes I used were C90s, and I never once, ever, had a load error off a tape.
Me neither.
I think the bad reputation of tape as a storage media for c64/vic20 is greatly exaggerated. The only time I had trouble loading from tape was with games copied with bad quality double deck cassette players.
I had lots of games saved to tape with Turbo Tape or GRL loader and those used very short pulses indeed.
I agree too! In fact, I've only ever had one Datasette die on me through all my years of use and abuse. It's a bit of a shame that tapes now have such a bad rep, what with reliability and load times. Folk should go back and compare the datasette with the 1541 with real world usage - I think they'd reappraise their biases! :P

Long live the Datasette!

PS: Bokvamme, I'll add the rest of you tapes to the wiki this weekend. :)
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Re: How many games could I fit on a 120 minute tape?

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Ghislain wrote:There's also a TURBO TAPE application that allows you to save programs on less tape space (one doesn't need turbo tape to load these programs afterwards), so I could probably save even more games on this hypothetical "ultimate" tape.
Do you mean my TurboTape 2.0 btw once you turbo-save a program/game for any Vic-20 memory configuration (unexpanded/3K/8k/16k/24k) you don't need to use this utility to load turbo-saved program, you may turbo-save cart images too 8)

TurboTape 2.0 is present from the Utilities of Mega-Cart too.
Ghislain wrote:I thought of something funny though, we could make a cassette version of the MEGA-CART and just call it the MEGA-TAPE :)
It's not difficult, it's just a matter of time.
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I remember (back in the day) I heard something going around that
using bigger c-60-c-90 tapes would stretch the belt in the " c2n Datassette "
Was this complete rubbish or true?

I am Just about to record hundreds of VIC-20 games onto Tape
and was thinking maybe buy c-60 tapes...But not sure what to do..
Maybe just stick with the c-20 or c-30 's?

what you guys think is best?
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theSmiths wrote:I remember (back in the day) I heard something going around that
using bigger c-60-c-90 tapes would stretch the belt in the " c2n Datassette "
Was this complete rubbish or true?
I heard the same. Moreover, someone told me that C90/120 were too long, and the tape speed tended to vary, slowing down towards the end.
theSmiths wrote:I am Just about to record hundreds of VIC-20 games onto Tape
and was thinking maybe buy c-60 tapes...But not sure what to do..
Maybe just stick with the c-20 or c-30 's?
I'd rather use several C20 or 30s, also to better find the programs :D .
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Post by theSmiths »

Thanks for your Quck Reply orion70!
It was very much appriciated as i wanted buy my tapes today :wink:

I think i will buy c-30 Tapes...
That way i will be able also to use them on my c-64 also!

:)
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