Ancient School - new VIC20 demo!

Sdw · Post by **Sdw** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:24 pm

I have now released my first VIC-20 demo called 'Ancient School'. 16kb expansion required!

Download here:
http://sdw.webhop.net/prods.html?prodid=51

Some classic 'old school' demo stuff. Technical details:

* 512 dots per frame plotter, running in a double-buffered 96x160 pixels screen.
* 32 characters DXYCP with 8x8 animated chars running each frame. 112x128 double buffered screen.
* EOR-fill 3D vector, also in double buffered 96x160 screen (this one is not running each frame though

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6502dude · Post by **6502dude** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:23 pm

Too late tonight for me.

I know what I will be doing Sunday morning.

eslapion · Post by **eslapion** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:49 pm

Awesome!

Boray · Post by **Boray** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:04 am

I only looked in VICE, but that was very NICE!

Iltanen · Post by **Iltanen** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:08 am

That was awesome! Thank you! Now it should be put on youtube?

Schlowski · Post by **Schlowski** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:15 am

Great one !

Sdw · Post by **Sdw** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 4:33 am

YouTube link here (captured from real VIC-20):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwWzqZeSmHg

nbla000 · Post by **nbla000** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:12 am

Very good work, i'm wonder why so many demo coder in the scene do not join together to start a collaborative project...

For example a fantastic multiload game for the expanded vic...

A demo is a good thing to demonstrate machine/programers limits but you load it just once or two, a game it's forever...

Btw it's a my opinion of course, any objection are welcome.

Schlowski · Post by **Schlowski** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:41 am

I think one problem is that demo coding is something different to game programming, resource-wise. All the cool effects would leave no time for game logic or AI, I would assume.

Sdw · Post by **Sdw** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 9:11 am

nbla000: Well for me at least, game coding (I have done my fair share of that as well!) includes much more boring parts than demo-coding.

With demos I can concentrate on the stuff I find most fun - cool graphical effects! When doing a game, having the cool graphical stuff in place means you're only like 25% done, then come the boring parts with user interaction, game logic etc. etc. Fixing all the bugs 'oh, the player did this and this and THAT, and that made the whole thing crash'. Bleh...

For example when I did Sycorax Episode 1 (a game for J2ME cellphones), it was sooo much fun in the beginning working with the graphics artist, getting the engine up and running (scrolling, sprite animations etc.). But then by the time I had put months upon months on the other stuff, I was really, really fed up with that game.

Post by **Jeff-20** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:20 am

YES! Denial finally makes the credits of a demo!

Wonder-Boy · Post by **Wonder-Boy** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:24 pm

Wow, very nice demo! Respect!!

gklinger · Post by **gklinger** » Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:46 pm

Top demo, mate. Could you share a little bit of info on how you created it, the tools you used and that sort of thing? It would make for some very interesting reading. Please and thank you.

nbla000 · Post by **nbla000** » Mon Sep 15, 2008 3:10 am

Sdw wrote:With demos I can concentrate on the stuff I find most fun - cool graphical effects! When doing a game, having the cool graphical stuff in place means you're only like 25% done, then come the boring parts with user interaction, game logic etc. etc. Fixing all the bugs 'oh, the player did this and this and THAT, and that made the whole thing crash'. Bleh...

First of all, i respect all works, it's my style, it was just some thinking on why so many vic demo coders do not start a vic game project.

Yes i agree with you, there are a lot of boring things when you write a game but boring things for you maybe are exciting things for others.

To work in team give you some advantages, in our Tetris+ for example, i worked with Nippur72 that starts the initial project and collaborate in some graphics stuff and Carlsson for music and sound effects, i've done the "boring" work...

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