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by mathop
Tue Nov 26, 2024 11:09 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: Keep composite signal with s-video mod?
Replies: 5
Views: 1672

Re: Keep composite signal with s-video mod?

Not an expert but I would not think taking Y/C directly from the chip will work. I would guess Q2 and the biasing network was put in there for a reason.
by mathop
Wed Sep 04, 2024 10:47 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: Any known bugs in the MOS 6561 to exploit for demo effects?
Replies: 2
Views: 1813

Re: Any known bugs in the MOS 6561 to exploit for demo effects?

This one springs to mind (a bit old) http://www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cbm/vic20/programming/vic20frontiers.txt The author (Viznut) also made the famous (?) "Impossiblator 3" demo. Some bits were discussed here recently (well some years ago now :) http://sleepingelephant.com/ipw-web/bulle...
by mathop
Sun May 19, 2024 11:40 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: Audio to expansion port
Replies: 5
Views: 3316

Re: Audio to expansion port

Thanks, so this appears to be some kind of official thing.
But what are the applications for this? Are there any?
by mathop
Sun May 19, 2024 9:12 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: Audio to expansion port
Replies: 5
Views: 3316

Re: Audio to expansion port

Hi. I have a VIC 20 CR board with a bodge wire on the back that appears to connect the audio pin of the VIC chip to pin Y on the expansion port via a 1K resistor. What does this actually do? Are there any cartidges that use this? Do you have a picture? Somewhere I've seen a schematic this this labe...
by mathop
Sun May 19, 2024 8:57 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: Audio to expansion port
Replies: 5
Views: 3316

Audio to expansion port

Hi. I have a VIC 20 CR board with a bodge wire on the back that appears to connect the audio pin of the VIC chip to pin Y on the expansion port via a 1K resistor. What does this actually do? Are there any cartidges that use this? Apologies if this has been answered already, I did a quick search on h...
by mathop
Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:09 pm
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: 6561 Die Shot Reversing Explorations
Replies: 289
Views: 186786

Re: 6561 Die Shot Reversing Explorations

[...] The only bit that doesn't make sense is that X=35 input. I've simulated this and VCNT.RESET goes high when X=35 on the LAST LINE. It doesn't make sense and clearly I have to check things over a few more times and try to work out why it doesn't reset at that point on the last line. I'm going t...
by mathop
Wed Dec 27, 2023 5:30 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: S-Video conversion possible as plug-and-play solution?
Replies: 87
Views: 103840

Re: S-Video conversion possible as plug-and-play solution?

Bit late to the party. It appears the S-Video mod being talked about here takes the chroma directly off the chip, albeit with a resistor + cap in between. This does not feel right to me. Should there not be a proper buffer/amplifier in between? I.e. similar to how the C64 modulator operates.
by mathop
Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:03 am
Forum: Games
Topic: In the making: Arukanoido – an Arkanoid clone
Replies: 612
Views: 284860

Re: In the making: Arukanoido – an Arkanoid clone

I did an audio capture of the high score music. Here are 3 waveforms from the same sample from different VIC20s (VIC20 CR model, NTSC 'old' (2-prong power), PAL old.) vicsamples.png The NTSC old model is the clear winner here with 4 distinguishable levels corresponding to 3 voices. The other models ...
by mathop
Thu Oct 26, 2023 10:48 am
Forum: Emulation and Cross Development
Topic: Colour blue on NTSC VICs.
Replies: 17
Views: 12137

Re: Colour blue on NTSC VICs.

If needed I can do a new capture - in theory I could also measure the phase offset between light and dark colors with my oscilloscope, although how exactly I haven't yet found out. :)
by mathop
Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:59 am
Forum: Emulation and Cross Development
Topic: Colour blue on NTSC VICs.
Replies: 17
Views: 12137

Re: Colour blue on NTSC VICs.

The order from left to right is black / white red / light red cyan / light cyan purple / light purple green / light green blue / light blue yellow / light yellow orange / light orange so then green would be at index 8 indeed. I also notice that yellow is also very greenish (compared to light yellow....
by mathop
Wed Oct 25, 2023 11:08 am
Forum: Emulation and Cross Development
Topic: Colour blue on NTSC VICs.
Replies: 17
Views: 12137

Re: Colour blue on NTSC VICs.

The NTSC VIC has two variations of cyan apparently. I found this post that may be related https://www.lemon64.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=979712 My NTSC VIC cyan looks distinctly blue so I guess this is an older variant - see images from capture card (NTSC contrast is a bit off but the color should be...
by mathop
Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:50 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: Colour palette entries
Replies: 4
Views: 4539

Re: Colour palette entries

Apparently early versions of the 6560 had a different palette where cyan would look more like a light blue rather than the colors described here. (I think I may have one of these.) Could be interesting to create a variant for that too.
by mathop
Mon May 08, 2023 9:32 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: FPGA 6561 - PAL Questions
Replies: 25
Views: 9084

Re: FPGA 6561 - PAL Questions

PAL VIC-20 is 312 lines
by mathop
Wed Apr 12, 2023 9:14 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: FPGA 6561 - PAL Questions
Replies: 25
Views: 9084

Re: FPGA 6561 - PAL Questions

Re cyan being off: I seem to recall that older 6560 variations generate a different cyan that is more blue-looking. E.g. this is what my NTSC VIC20 looks like bt848_ntsc_comp_vic20-ntsc.png My PAL VIC20 looks like this bt848_pal_comp_vic20.png apparently the cyan on later 6560 models should look mor...
by mathop
Mon Apr 10, 2023 9:10 am
Forum: Hardware and Tech
Topic: FPGA 6561 - PAL Questions
Replies: 25
Views: 9084

Re: FPGA 6561 - PAL Questions

There is some research data here (partly German) The PAL colour generation is a bit problematic because the even and odd lines have different angles/amplitudes for each of the colours. This is probably due to the way the colours are generated on the chip. In theory all dark colours (2-8) should have...